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Loch Voyage

Gast schreibt am 07.08.2016



Dear Schamanenstube, My German is not that good, so I am glad to see that I can ask you in English as well. Could you please tell me what "Loch Reise" means? How is it done by a Shaman? I did not find anything useful.

Cheers
Ruth



  • Schamanenstube

    Dear Ruth
    The word "Loch" means hole. In this method of travelling, you build a hole in the nature, e.g. in the woods. But you dont travel through the hole, you sit there. If somebody asks for help in a specific situation, you can influence the mood around your client. The hole gives you direct access to the place the client is in. If somebody is in an exam, you just influence with calmness an so on.
    Cheers, Schamanenstube


  • Gast

    Dear Schamanenstube

    I see. Thanks so far. I am in touch with shamanic methods for about 1 year and I'm wondering wether I can help a depressed person or not when using the Loch Reise. Funny expression though. Do I understand appropriately: I build this hole in the woods (in your example) to protect myself from bad influences? Or does the hole give place to create a space for the problem situation the client finds himself right now?

    Cheers
    Ruth


  • Schamanenstube

    Dear Ruth
    The hole-journey is just a method to influence a situation. Protection is not provided. The hole builds a connection to the real environment of the client. That's all.
    We're not protecting ourselves doing a work you described. If you need this, you probably could build the hole using gemstones fetching everything, that's bothering you?
    A depression should be looked at using therapeutic methods. The hole-journey is just a tool to reach somebody without travelling into his otherworld.
    Cheers, Schamanenstube


  • Gast

    Dear Schamanenstube, thats sweet! A really nice thing to help another person. Thank you for the precious help.

    Cheers
    Ruth


  • Gast

    Dear Shaman Snuggery (I guess this is it)
    Another one please: Is the client as well in this hole? Do we sit together in a real hole or do we just imaginate this hole? Could it be useful to draw a hole on the floor, e.g. with chalk or do we have to dwell in nature?

    Cheers
    Ruth


  • Schamanenstube

    Dear Ruth
    Snuggery sounds lovely, we always translated it as a lounge, but snuggery is more likely. Thanks!
    Image a client having a meeting. The conclusions of this meeting are very important for him. He also knows, that the solutions of the people in the room depend on his mood. He askes you for help.
    In such a case, you can open a hole directly to the room, the client is in. Now you influence the room with calmness in order to avoid the client to get angry or anything like that.
    This means, your client is not in the hole. It is only a connection to your client.
    Chalk would work, too.
    Cheers, Schamanenstube


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