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  • Loch Voyage
    Gast

    Dear Schamanenstube, My German is not that good, so I am glad to see that I can ask you in English as well. Could you please tell me what "Loch Reise" means? How is it done by a Shaman? I did not find anything useful.

    Cheers
    Ruth

    • Schamanenstube

      Dear Ruth
      The word "Loch" means hole. In this method of travelling, you build a hole in the nature, e.g. in the woods. But you dont travel through the hole, you sit there. If somebody asks for help in a specific situation, you can influence the mood around your client. The hole gives you direct access to the place the client is in. If somebody is in an exam, you just influence with calmness an so on.
      Cheers, Schamanenstube

    • Gast

      Dear Schamanenstube

      I see. Thanks so far. I am in touch with shamanic methods for about 1 year and I'm wondering wether I can help a depressed person or not when using the Loch Reise. Funny expression though. Do I understand appropriately: I build this hole in the woods (in your example) to protect myself from bad influences? Or does the hole give place to create a space for the problem situation the client finds himself right now?

      Cheers
      Ruth

    • Schamanenstube

      Dear Ruth
      The hole-journey is just a method to influence a situation. Protection is not provided. The hole builds a connection to the real environment of the client. That's all.
      We're not protecting ourselves doing a work you described. If you need this, you probably could build the hole using gemstones fetching everything, that's bothering you?
      A depression should be looked at using therapeutic methods. The hole-journey is just a tool to reach somebody without travelling into his otherworld.
      Cheers, Schamanenstube

    • Gast

      Dear Schamanenstube, thats sweet! A really nice thing to help another person. Thank you for the precious help.

      Cheers
      Ruth

    • Gast

      Dear Shaman Snuggery (I guess this is it)
      Another one please: Is the client as well in this hole? Do we sit together in a real hole or do we just imaginate this hole? Could it be useful to draw a hole on the floor, e.g. with chalk or do we have to dwell in nature?

      Cheers
      Ruth

    • Schamanenstube

      Dear Ruth
      Snuggery sounds lovely, we always translated it as a lounge, but snuggery is more likely. Thanks!
      Image a client having a meeting. The conclusions of this meeting are very important for him. He also knows, that the solutions of the people in the room depend on his mood. He askes you for help.
      In such a case, you can open a hole directly to the room, the client is in. Now you influence the room with calmness in order to avoid the client to get angry or anything like that.
      This means, your client is not in the hole. It is only a connection to your client.
      Chalk would work, too.
      Cheers, Schamanenstube

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  • Dear english speaking members
    Schamanenstube

    English divination

    Hello and welcome to the message board of the Orakelsee!

    As you can see, there is on the very right top of the Orakelsee-site a button for switching languages. Youre welcome to ask the oracle in english language. Id call my english speaking a "runaway english", but I hope Id serve you as good as the german speaking customers.
    For discussions around the Orakelsee-site or the
    Wish Well please use this forum.
    Yours,
    Schamanenstube

    • AaronSartin-Bethell

      Dear Schamanenstube I Have already introduced myself on the German page in my best German (I can speak it a lot better than I can write) and now I wanted to say hallo here as well My name is Aaron Sartin-Bethell and I have been luckky enough to receive over 7 years traing from an Australian Shaman that goes by the name of Omni. Her teachings were pretty difficult to follow as they were normally taken directly out of the channel, but were amazing fun and I wouldn't have missed a second for the world. now that I consider myself a Shaman, the techings go on and the world is my teacher - it is marvelous and I love every minute of it. I would love to get in touch with anyone who has a need to confer refer or just talk. all the best aaron Sartin-Bethell

    • Schamanenstube

      Dear Aaron I welcome you to the Schamanenstube and I’m glad to write some English after a longer time. Actually your German is very well and I didn’t have any doubts about your writings. Congratulations. *smile* The only thing I name is the reason why I only answer this post here. I’ve been missing any salutation or greeting in some of your German posts. As you see, we only answer posts talking to somebody. For us, the greeting-story belongs to our kind of living: there’s always a reason to greet, isn’t it? We try to make our online conversations as real as possible. You’re right: the teaching never ends. Thinking of our shamanism school here in Switzerland, we’ve got about 150 non-personal units we teach. But on top of them: this is just a beginning as you can imagine. There are a few people here to just talk about shamanism. I could name you another of my forums if you’d like. For sure, the main language is German, but I read your texts and as I said initially: your German is very well. You’ll have no problems getting in touch with other shamanic pratitionners. You’re welcome to ask the other address per private message, if interested. *smile* Schamanenstube

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